ECHO IS DEAD

Please people do not invest in this project. It was ahead of it's time, but it's time is up. There are so many alternatives actively developed using AJAX including Goggle, Wicket, and the like. We have to let this project die.

nothing against Tod, I used version 1 and 2, but this is dead.

ScoPi's picture

Well, aren't you a sour puss.

Well, aren't you a sour puss.

There are many open source

There are many open source projects out there people actively use but not being actively developed. That's not always because they are dead. Some simply because they are very good that little changes needed. Either way, they are still treasures to some.

Echo2 is one good example. The architecture of Echo is unique and the code base is very clean. Echo3 is very stable and a very good Echo2 replacement. Does it have bugs? Not much. But some browsers (ahem IE) tend to introduce bugs as they release new versions. If you see one, fix it, and please send patch to the community so we can all be happy.

Echo develops great web apps. If you don't care about the quality of your web app, that all you need is simply get it to "look" and "work" the way you wanted to. And you just want it quick and dirty, then Echo is not for you. Echo's strength lies with functional and clean. Even though the "out-of-box" look isn't great, but it doesn't mean you can't dress it up to compete with the best design of the web. It's all there if you know how to use it.

For those do care about the quality of our work, I strongly advocate for Echo. I've had great experience working with Echo and created great looking web apps that works great and very robust. Never had any real issues with it.

P.S. Google GWT and Wicket both solve very different sets of problems. Your comparison makes no sense here.

ScoPi's picture

Good response. I think the

Good response. I think the thing that everyone is underestimating is the simple nature of using the JavaScript-only Echo 3 API. No Java server is needed at all (or any Java runtime for that matter), and no tool chain of any sort is required (for example, even qooxdoo requires running Python scripts just to generate an application skeleton and ExtJS requires something similar). With Echo 3, you simply include the Echo 3 JavaScript files needed in your bootstrap file (e.g. index.htm) and voila you're off. Plain and simple. There is nothing like that I've found. ExtJS is the closest, and I've had problems getting the "Getting Started" example to even run.